ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the winners and losers at the ‘Weekend Box Office’…PLUS – Thoughts on actor Zach Levi’s endorsing Donald Trump AND marking the passing of actor John Ashton & actor, country singer-songwriter Kris Kristofferson – on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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On Friday, Mark Ronner, for his runa Report, gave a
review of the Francis Ford Coppola movie his passion project, Megalopolis.
It was not a sterling review, It was more a
prediction of how it would fare in the box office.
And the movie did not did not do well, surprising
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absolutely nobody, especially Mark Ronner, coming in at number six
with a meager four million dollar box office. Granted, it
was only in eighteen hundred theaters, but it’s per theater
average of two thousand dollars is meager.
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No, And I got to tell you, I was predisposed
to give it a break because I had noticed kind
of a weird lack of interest in it. And like
I said Friday, this is the guy who gave us
The Godfather and Apocalypse. Now he’s at least during the
benefit of the doubt. That’s an automatic ticket buy for me.
But it was so much worse than I ever ever
conceived it could possibly be.
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Well, this is the gender demographic discussion. He’s earned the
benefit of the doubt with people forty and older, he’s
earned the benefit of the doubt with those who have
seen his great movies over the years. Who know Francis
Ford Coppola. If you’re between the age of fifteen and thirty,
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you probably haven’t seen maybe more than one or two
at most, at most of Francis Ford Coppola. And he’s
not a deciding factor in any movie that you see.
You think, so, really, I really do think so. Let’s
look at run down his IMDb, his movies, and I
don’t believe he’s had a hit in the past ten
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His recent stuff has been really spotty. I’ve tried to
give nearly all of it a chance. But the thing is,
if you only have the first two Godfathers and Apocalypse
Now on your CV, you are an immortal.
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No, you are.
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You are an immortal.
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But say that to someone under the age of thirties, like,
why should I see this movie? Well, this is the
same guy who did Apocalypse.
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Now, I tell you, he’s exhausted his goodwill at this point.
This was a giant sized stinker. I mean, I’m not
kidding you. My mouth was hanging open at some parts
in this thing. The thing about not having any studio interference,
and we talked about this in terms of editors, I
think last Friday, which is sometimes maybe it’s a good
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thing to have people giving you notes if this is
what you end up without them.
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Look, the Godfather was fifty two years ago. Oh god,
we’re old. Okay, I’m saying, so you were.
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If you were to explain to someone who is Francis
Ford Coppola, who is this person that you’re saying, I
need to see this movie because he’s one of the
greatest directors of all time. True, he is, but I
don’t know if that is in any way enticing someone
who’s under the age of thirty to go see them.
And I say under the age of thirty, because that’s
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Well, here’s another layer to this that was on my
mind that I didn’t really talk about much. The movie
industry is so driven right now by franchises, sequels, and remakes.
I want to support anything that isn’t one of those.
And that’s an original idea. But boy, when you roll
the dice, sometimes you just come up snake eyes, and
that’s what this was.
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And I also wonder since it was a passion project,
not a movie studio driven project, there’s really no production
excuse me, promotion arm which is going to get into
tie the wide type of covers that he’s gonna need
on social media and beyond for people to see it.
I saw a couple of trailer previews, but nothing that’s
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going to drive people to the movies.
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Well, this is what I mentioned Friday. You can’t tell
what this movie is about by looking at the trailers.
It looks like a cologne commercial. You have no idea
what is going on. It’s like a cologne commercial filtered
through an Iron Rand book. And I think anybody who
didn’t outgrow iin Ran by the time they were nineteen
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I’ve noticed that movies which are visually stunning stylistically slick,
for some reason don’t do well in theaters.
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It might be a combination of poor script and other
like do you remember the movie Oblivion, Tom Cruise, Morgan Freeman.
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I only saw the beginning of that so and actually
Tuala and I have been talking about that fairly recently,
so I haven’t seen the whole thing visually stunning.
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I actually liked the movie.
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The movie bombed, And there’s something about these visually stunning
movies that just don’t they don’t translate Tron the second movie,
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I’m gonna stop you right there. It wasn’t a massive hit,
but it was one of the best sequels of anything
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You missed my point. It’s not whether you liked it.
I’m saying whether it translated for audiences by and large.
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No, but it’s got legs. It’s going to be around forever.
That’s a good one. It was not a huge hit
when it came out. I grant you that, but it’s
this is one that it’s not a You couldn’t even
call it a cult film. People began to appreciate it
more and more as time passed. Okay, all right, I
mean I don’t care about that. Don’t translate. I mean,
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if it turns into a cult classic, then okay. But
for the purposes of its initial theater run, it didn’t connect,
not as much as people would have wanted. No, absolutely not.
I mean it was kind of a high concept. It’s
hard to overstate just the kind of meat and potatoes
stuff movie audiences want. They don’t want stuff that’s that’s
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that complicated or intellectual and I don’t know if that’s
an insult or not.
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It just is.
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Sometimes there are limits to escapism. You can take a
movie like Tenet, and I love Christopher Nolan, who I
think is one of the best directors of our time,
but even he can get so far out there as
too complex for audiences to best appreciate and digest.
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Nobody understood Tenant, did you know? I tried? I really tried.
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It’s one of those where I’ll go ahead and read
the Wikipedia afterward to see if I can figure it out.
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It just didn’t make sense to me.
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And that was one of those movies I was running
to see first night, even Interstellar, which I thought was
I did not like the execution of it. Well, he
didn’t stick the landing With Interstellar. It was such a
beautiful movie and everybody in it was so good, and
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you want to see a big budget sci fi epic
like that from a director like that.
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And then what in the hell was that ending? What
was that? He didn’t like the Bookcase. I didn’t like
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I didn’t like that he was chasing tail and left
his family behind. The whole movie was predicated about getting
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Yeah, he just talked at his honor and.
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He steals a ship to go after some chick who what.
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Didn’t even profess any type of interest in him.
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No, No, he just stalked her and he just steal
He helps himself to a spare spaceship that’s lying around.
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I don’t know what he was thinking with that ending.
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It was so disappointing because the first two acts were
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Right, and that always begs the question, if you don’t
stick the landing, if the third act is horrible, does
to make the whole movie bad. I don’t think it
makes the whole movie bad, but it makes it very,
very disappointing. And some people like, well, if it has
a great ending, then it makes up for the first
two acts. I think you need I think you need
to try factor. I need you to hit it in
the first, second, and third act.
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So you’ll admit that Nolan is an automatic ticket buy
for whatever he does.
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He is, But I but I admit there’s some there
are some misses in there with those hits.
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Sure, but Coppola no longer after this I agree with you. Well,
it’s the last one that you thoroughly and enjoyed. Of
who of FFC. I couldn’t even tell you, because.
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I mean we we all rewatched The Godfather and yeah,
and Apocalypse Now. I saw at a preposterously young age
that was very inappropriate and that left a huge impression
on me as a kid. And in fact, I’ll tell
you right this, because I’ve been in touch with my
film based on Apocalypse Now, which is based on the
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Heart of Mark the Heart of Darkness I called the film.
I called the film the Heart of Markness. And I’ve
been talking about that guy with my old teacher this week.
So I don’t know. I mean, he did, Jack, he
did what is it? Ted Tiatro. I’m not looking at IMDb,
I am, but I’m scrolling trying to find something. You
really have to go Captain EO.
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Okay, okay, how big serious good The Outsiders in eighty three.
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No, I’m looking for a real hit in the past
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Oh no, I take your point. He hasn’t had one.
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Bram Stoker, Dracula, I did not like I didn’t like
Dracula or Frankenstein form him, but they both had some
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I didn’t like the whole things though, Yeah he did.
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the monster. I saw Cotton Club that was eighty four.
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I didn’t particularly care You did not like Gotten Club,
I said, I didn’t particularly care for it.
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That is a classic. It is a class classic. I
know it is. I’m just saying it didn’t resonate with me.
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I guess my last movie FFC that I really liked
was Apocalypse Now and I was seventy nine.
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Jack Wow, as I said, I mean, they gotta look
Captain Neo. Cotton Club is to me one of my
love that treatment of Frankistan. But you’re the guy. Let me
just I have to watch Cotton Club again.
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That was the one I saw, like many of these
movies as kids, I saw Apocalypse Now as an adult.
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Mark, Yes, please, I’ll do that, and I’ll go back
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It is such an epic gangs to Tell and Such
a tale of just that period.
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Okay, all right, I haven’t on my iPod really yeah, yeah,
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Did not know that you are the lone Cotton fanboy
on earth? That’s it?
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No? I think I think he and both my parents
were No, are mother still its?
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Yeah? But you know I just don’t. It didn’t hit
me oh Man watching again?
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Yeah, because I was a teenager. Then maybe I’ll appreciate
it more now.
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Well, in any case, I wouldn’t spend too much time
feeling sorry for all FFC because if he can afford
to drop one hundred twenty million bucks on a movie,
he’s doing better than you and me.
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Well, very quickly, before we go to break, did anyone
see The Wild Robot which came in at number one
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You know why? Okay? Mark? Okay, you want to know why?
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Mark, No, we don’t want to. I’m an adult. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay.
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You crack yourself up later with mo Kelly caf Im
six forty Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and when
we come back, as we talk about movie stars and
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Zach Levi has endorsed Donald Trump. It’s been interesting the
general response to that, and I have some thoughts on
why zach Levi is going to be received differently than
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Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Me, personally, I take
celebrity endorsements with a grain of salt. They don’t move
me one way or the other, but they’re not all
created equals. Some are effective, some aren’t effective for me.
And this is just me personally. I put more stock
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in an endorsement if it’s a if it’s a celebrity
who actually puts in work on the ground that you
see them doing the work with it whatever they believe
in consistently. If I only hear about what you believe
or who you should vote for once every four years
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and it’s only for the office of president, I put
no stock in anything you have to say, because you’re
more trying to grab on to the celebrity aspect of
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It’s cool now, it’s sheit now, it’s in style.
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Now for celebrities to come out and say I’m voting
for so and so, I’m with her MAGA twenty twenty four.
If that’s all I hear from you, I can’t take
you seriously because the first question I’m going to ask
if I were to meet that celebrity, did you like
vote in the midterms? Is this the first time you’re
actually involved in the process. What is your level of
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involvement are you Are you trying to motivate people to vote?
Are you trying to get people involved in a process consistently,
or are you just grand standing and releasing a press
release and getting your name out there.
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That’s my standard. Now for you, it may be completely different.
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And I always say I don’t tell you who to
vote for it because I damn sure don’t want you
to tell me who to vote for, because I don’t
care and I don’t listen to you. But my point
is not all celebrity endorsements are equal, and I tend
to take the people more seriously if they’ve had a
consistent level of involvement. If the only time I see
you is at a national convention, only time I hear
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from you is around the presidential election, can’t take you
seriously because you’re not actually invested, you’re not actually involved.
You’re almost trying to trying to just grab a hold
of what people are talking about, and you get yourself
in the news cycle. But I found it interesting that
actor sat zach Levi came out and endorsed former President Trump,
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and this was after he supported RFK Junior, and he
made the statement make it great again, and this is
what he said on social media.
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I’m not going to take too much time, but I
did just want to give you a little context about
why Shazam is sitting here talking to you about these
various things. I grew up in a family that was
Christian Conservative, that was pretty much the lane that we
were in. My parents were Kennedy Democrats that then turned
into Reagan Republicans, and they taught me to have a
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healthy level of distrust for the government and a healthy
level of distrust for industry that runs amok. And for
a long time I was like, man, I really want
to find a politician that represents all the things that
I want and I want to see in a presidential candidate.
And this year I found Bobby Kennedy and I thought, man,
this guy is it. He’s the real deal. And in
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the perfect world, whatever that would look like, perhaps I
would have voted for Bobby. But we don’t live in
a perfect world. In fact, we live in a very
broken one. We live in a country that has been
hijacked by a lot of people who want to take
this place way off the cliff, and we want to
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We’re here to make sure that we are going to
take back this country. We’re going to make it great again,
We’re going to make it healthy again. And so I
stand with Bobby, and I stand with Tulcy, and I
stand with everyone else who was standing with President Trump,
because I do believe of the two choices we have,
and we only have two, Donald Trump, President Trump is
the man that can get us there.
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Let me just ask the question, as Zach Levy said
anything about anything at any time, about anyone, anywhere, for
any reason, about any subject prior to this moment, I
can’t think of anything. Maybe he did on social media
four years ago, maybe he did eight years ago. I
don’t know. I don’t know, and I’m consistent. Be it
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Janet Jackson or Zach Levi or Taylor Swift. You can
use your celebrity however you want. It doesn’t mean that
we should be forced to take any you or all
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Seriously. Sorry, Am I moved by Taylor Swift?
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No, I am moved by the fact that because she
made the appeal for people to register to vote, one
hundreds of thousands of people did do that. You can’t
ignore that. That doesn’t mean that her endorsement means more,
but it does mean her celebrity has power in a
way that zach Levi does not.
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I don’t know. Maybe he’ll sell twenty million records next year.
I don’t know. Zach Levy don’t sign any records. But
that’s my point. You know, he can’t even sell Shazam.
I know, I know, And.
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I’m trying to separate his movie career, what is done
or not done, and what he’s trying to do here.
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I would like to think.
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I would hope that he is doing this not as
a way to get his name in the news. I
would hope that we hear from him two years from
now during the midterms. Oh, I would No, I’m being serious.
I would hope that this would be because voting is
not the end, it’s the beginning of the process. You
don’t just vote and go sit down. You don’t vote
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and go away. You’re supposed to stay engaged. You hold
the elected officials accountable. You get involved on your local level,
and hopefully he is using his celebrity wherever he is,
if he feels so strongly about this country, well, how
better to impact your country than right.
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Where you are in your own neighborhoods.
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You know, most people conceive of this country only on
the presidential level, and the presidential level, you turn off
cable news, you don’t feel any of that. You’ll feel
what the governor does. You’ll feel what the mayor does.
You will feel what your city council people will do.
They’re enacting the ordinances that which are directly impacting on
a day to day basis. If you’re mad about COVID
and what happened with schools and restaurants, those are your
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It’s not the president.
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If you want to know that, the person that’s going
to have the most impact on your day to day life,
it’s your local officials who always talk about civics.
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Civics, and it’s nice you want to feel that you’re,
you know, doing your part by telling people to vote
for someone or someone else for a president doesn’t mean
a damn thing. And honestly, the president, with the exception
of the big ticket items like appointing Supreme Court justices
or in acting through the help of a legislation, using
the bully pulpit to have legislation.
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Leaning on Congress he gets to sign or she gets
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At the end, the president doesn’t impact.
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Your day to day life in the way that your
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Now, tell me the truth.
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Do you think Joe Biden has had more impact on
your life as an Angelino? And I’m only speaking to
peopleho actually live in La than Mayor Bass? I don’t
think so. I think Mayor Bass what she has done
or hasn’t done visa to the homelessness and crime has
much more impact than whatever they’re talking about with the infrastructure,
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whatever they’re talking about, what’s going out at the border,
it’s not impacting you on a day to day basis,
not like these other issues. Now it’s talked up more
on cable news, but actual impact homelessness impacts you every
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You see it, you feel it. You have to deal
with it. Be at RVs, the.
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Drugs, the homelessness, the danger, the safety issue. If you’re
on public transit, you feel that every single day.
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You don’t feel what’s going on in Washington.
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You can discuss it, you can talk about it from
thirty thousand feet up. You can talk about it in
an abstract way. You can talk about the Supreme Court
and reproductive rights. But you don’t feel it on an
everyday basis. So zach LEVI, you can take it or
you can leave it. I’m looking for It’s not what
he says today. It’s whether he has anything to say
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two years from now or the next mayoral election.
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I think he lives in LA area. You’re hoping for
too much. Well, you know, I say it out front.
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I say it out front because people say, well, well,
if Taylor Swift matters, I didn’t say that she mattered.
I said that what she did led to action, which
is powerful. But who she chose is of no difference
to me. Taylor Swift can’t tell me nothing about nothing.
If I were to choose someone who is legitimately involved,
I would look at someone like Eva Longoria, who’s been
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in this on the ground for maybe two decades. You know,
I would look at someone and when I say involved,
I’m not talking about publicly just making statements. You know,
James Woods actor very verbally active. I don’t know what
he does other than tweet just and I say that
as a James Woods fan, like his movies, but outside
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of complaining. John Voyd, I know he makes a video
every now and then, but I don’t know what he’s doing,
how actively involved he is on the ground level. And
we don’t hear from John Voyd, for example, other than
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If I’m wrong, send it to me. I don’t think
so you made like a Sean Penn who’s awe.
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Around doing something involved in these issues. That means far
more than someone saying like I’m this or I’m that.
Please vote for so and so because the country’s going
to hell. See you in four years.
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I started the show tonight talking about the recent passings
of so many people who’ve had I would say an
outsize impact on our lives. Music, movies, music, and movies,
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This week, I will say the past seven days has
been really, really full of bad news. One of those
pieces of bad news was the passing of John Ashton.
Beverly Hills copy will be best known for and most
recently known for. I would say, but it’s not all
that he did. It was very successful in TV and movies.
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I think it was a midnight run he was with
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Yeah. I just read a story before we went on
the air about how.
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He auditioned for that and got the role by telling
de Niro to f off basically in the audition.
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It’s unfortunate that you don’t get some of those great
gems until after someone has passed. But this is why.
And we have all these debates about whether sequels or
reboots or good things. John Ashton is the reason, the
perfect reason for why certain sequels must be made.
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And here’s what I mean.
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There was a lot of discussion and people were saying, WHOA,
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No one’s asking for that, And people like me were saying,
let’s finish the story, let’s close the story, Let’s have
one last ride together. That was something that I think
and it didn’t need to be released in theaters. I
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thought the axl F Beverly Hills Cop four movie was
very funny. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Not everyone agreed with me.
You liked it better than I did.
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But I am one hundred percent with you when you
talk about just wanting to see these familiar faces. We
grew up with one more time, one more time.
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And part of the reason for me why axel F
worked and the last trilogy of Star Wars did not
is because Star Wars Movie seven eight nine did not
give us one last ride. What I mean by that
is there was no scene in which all of the
principal characters were together. Maybe in the Millennium Falcon, maybe
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chilling on Hatuin or something. But you never saw Luke
and Lea together. He only astrally projected himself. You never
saw Lando and Lea together. You never saw Han and
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You know what I mean.
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There was such a crime. We in fact, we were
talking about that this weekend. How could anybody have put
together those movies and not thought to do that. It’s
the only thing people want to see, and they didn’t
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That was the whole point of Look, if you’re going
to have a new trilogy and include the old characters,
then they have to come together. Otherwise, don’t include them
at all. Go to another time in history, you know,
jump forward time leap of eighty five years or something
when everyone is obviously gone, so you don’t have to
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But getting back to John Ashton, that’s what I wanted.
That’s why I think.
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It was so successful because they had a literal, and
I mean literal, final scene in which John Ashton, Judge
Reinhol Eddie Murphy had one last i’ll say steak out
if you will, where they sat together in the car
and talked and it was almost prescient.
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Listen to this. How often do you read.
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Twelve billy? What the fuck? It’s good for the marriage?
Get out? Get out of the car right now, Get out.
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Oh, you two are the worst thing surveillance team that
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Ever lived. Holy, it’s only been a week. You’re supposed
to be wrestling in the damn hospital.
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Yeah no, and you’re supposed to be out here watching
to make sure I don’t get the hell out of here, right.
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Jane put you all up to this, didn’t We’re worried
about you. We don’t be worried about me. I’m fine.
I just had to get from up there for a second. Man.
Look up there, there’s nothing but a bunch of it.
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Everybody’s hacking and coughing and moaning and groaning.
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You would fit in perfect up you take. Hey, let
me out of this, all right? Hey, look, I just
want to go get a steak. I’m stopping. No, what
do you mean.
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No, I’ve just seen this hospital food for a week
and I need some real food.
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No way, what I’m not trying to start. No, I
just want a steak. Let’s go. Come on, man, Look,
you know me, You understand me. You know I need this. Man,
don’t do it, Philly, Sarge, we both know I’m gonna
do it. Let’s get a porterhouse.
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Yeah, not getting any younger, you know, let’s get up
one last ride. If anything, the whole movie was made
by that one scene where all three of them got together,
because they weren’t together throughout the whole movie. They got
together and got to relive some of the best moments
of the of the Beverly Hills cop franchise, the moments
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on Steak Out. They had one last ride. That is
why you have some of these sequels. I’ll give you
another example. James Earl Jones, who passed recently one of
his final on screen movies, Coming to America Part two.
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Also Murphy so Eddie understands this.
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He gets this, and he got the original actors and
actresses who were still living because many of them have
passed from the original company to America, got them together
for one last ride, and then James Earl Jones passed
within two years of it. That is one of the
best arguments for getting these folks together and doing it right.
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It doesn’t have to be a huge money maker, but
a lot of us want to see them together one
last time, and I think we’re better for it. And
if I have to remember John Ashton, I’ll remember him
for that, not wondering where’s he been for the past
twenty years, what was he up to? I wonder what
it would have been like, because if they waited one
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more year, that movie doesn’t happen, not in that way.
And we don’t get that scene. We don’t get that moment.
He’s probably referred to as passed on in the movie,
and we’re all sad, like, oh gosh, I wish we
could have seen what happened to Taggart. Instead, we got
to see he turned out to be chief of Beverly
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That’s why you have sequels, you know.
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Mark brought up a great film idea the other day,
and I don’t want to take your idea of Mark,
but he said that we have to have to get
a final story of Snake Pliskin because Kurt Russell’s still here,
he’s still acting, he’s still doing it. That’s a movie
you can do, an old Snake Pliskin movie that have
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to be escaping from anything. I don’t care what he did.
He could just be escape from the nursing home something.
I mean, there’s a story there, and Karin Russell still
has it, and I think everyone would like to find
out what happens to Snake Pliskin.
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Oh absolutely, We just got to get John Carpenter out
from in front of the basketball games and the video
games and his vapepen or whatever he’s doing. I don’t
think he’s in a hurry to make any movies anymore.
At this point, he’s just cashing checks. But I think
he’s brilliant. I’d love to see a couple more from
him while we still have him, both him and Kurt Russell.
Kurt Russell is such a much better actor than people
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give him credit for. I just watched last week in
nineteen eighty five movie called The Mean Season with him
as a reporter. What a terrific movie and a terrific
role from him. I would love to see an old
Snake Plisken movie, and you can steal that from me.
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I didn’t expect to be hired to write that screenplay,
although it turns out I’m available. Before we go to break,
can we just give a little bit of last minute
honored to Chris Krosoft. I stayed up last night and
crime movie with Gene Hackman as a corrupt cop who
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whole bunch of weed for him over a weekend. You
must watch. It’s streaming on Amazon Prime if you’ve never
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It’s well well worth a watch.
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Look for someone to be that talented, to be that
accomplished as an actor and a musician across many decades,
many decades. They don’t make them like that anymore. And look,
Stars Born. The better version, the original version, Chris Christofferson version,
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no disrespect to the other version, which I shall not mention.
But yeah, we lost a lot of talent this week
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And before we get out of here, just want to
let you know, Tuala I told Tauala this, but I
was just bumping around the internet during the break and
it seems that there was at one time. It never
came to fruition. There was a third Escape from movie which.
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Was right, that wound up being the Mars movie. Yeah,
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Well, I think John Carpenter said it was a good idea,
but it was not the Mars movie. Ghost of Mars. Yeah,
Ghosts of Mars was not. But there was an Escape
from Earth movie which was planned that hurts to find
out about these things, doesn’t it it hurts well. Actually, look,
according to screen rat John Carpenter and Vision Escape from
Earth as a space adventure with Snake Pliskin in a
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space capsule, I can see it.
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Take my money, take it, take it out. Look in
twelve and I were saying, like, let it be zombies.
You know the Earth is overrun? Was come on, Tony,
what’s wrong with zombies? Get on the mic.
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I hate the zombie genre all together? Did you hear
every bit of it? I plan on surviving the zombpop
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Oh I, I just it’s just the writing is it’s
always the same story.
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It’s not the monsters that are bad as the people
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It’s always that say it again, say it again. What
that you hate zombies? I hate zombie movies, but I
have the worst taste of movies. I’ll take agreed, We agree,
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Look, Mark is a phenomenal zombie penman. And I think
if anyone’s going to create a story that’s different where
the people literally have to escape the planet from a
contagion or something that’s broke up. Because after New York falls,
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all healthcare falls, zombie apocalypse is on. You can use
your gold that you’ve been hoarding. You cannot use the gold,
no gold going with you. But that may be the
thing that gets you on the ship. Call it the
Exelsior rocket or whatever. And now you’ve got a bunch
of young people who are all going to die along
the way, and it ends up just being Snake on
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the shuttle to whatever moon base.
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I would watch anything that Snake Pliskin was in. I’m also,
and you guys have to be too, a huge fan
of the thing. Yes, yeah, yes, well I put it
this way. I like the original thing at nineteen eighty one,
was it? Yeah, yeah, well the original was the one
in the fifties that Christian Iby and Howard Hawks did.
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But but yeah, the Carpenter one with Kurt Russell is fantastic.
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Yeah. I didn’t care for the sequel prequel. It was terrible.
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No, And when I saw the movies, like, oh, this
is not a sequel, it’s a prequel.
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It’s the lead up to the John Carpenter movie. I
don’t think they knew what it was supposed to be.
But it was an embarrassment. It cheapened the original, if
that’s even possible.
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I never watched it twice, and to this day I
still think about the John Carpenter version that ending with
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And he refuses to divulge what’s up in that too.
People come at him every which way and he just
couldn’t care less if you, the viewer, have satisfaction about
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I had Keith David in studio and he wouldn’t tell us.
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Do you think he knows?
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I think he has as good an idea as anyone,
because I think only Carpenter has the definitive answer.
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Well, I think it’s fair to say that, but when
I watched the movie, I thought that it was Kurt
Russell’s character who was the thing?
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Okay, if we are we getting into this, because it’s
getting into it, because there are theories. If you look
at the ending, if you look at the last wedding
or whatever, well whose breath you can see? Yes, and
you can see the breath of one of the guys,
but not the other. And I’m not going to tell
you who it is. You got to go watch.
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It, Tony. Is The Thing a good movie? At least
to you? I haven’t ever seen it. Oh, for God’s sake, mother.
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But I will say, talking about sequels and Kurt Russell,
we should get a sequel, Kurt Russell, John Carpenter sequel,
The Big Trouble Little China another masterpiece.
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And you know I’m scared of that. I definitely don’t
want to remake. But no, but you still can do
it because it ended. No, pen is still alive, I know.
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Jack Burton has to be alive, right, and the monster
was on the truck at the end.
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Come on, just about everyone from that movie.
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Kim Cattrall still a lot, right, But going back to
John Ashton, better hurry the hell up.
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Better, hurry up, better, hurry up. Yeah.
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The chief irony of those movies, especially by Carpenter, is
that they were flops when they came out. It took
audiences years to smarten up and understand how ingenious those
things were. Carpenter was so ahead of his time.
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Well that’s why they’re cult classics and not classic classics,
because people we fell in love with them. Yeah, we’ve
been trying to get James Hang who played Lo Pan
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We’ve been trying. It’s just hurry. Oh no, we were
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It was like it was just a matter of timing,
like he was he had something else to do that
day was it was the premiere of I can’t remember
the movie, but it was like, do you guys want them?
We were bending over backwards to make it happen, and
they wanted to happen. He wanted it to happen. It
just the timing did not work.
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Fortunately for him, he’s getting tons and tons of the recognition.
He’s all he’s deserved finally now and.
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He’s gonna live to be one hundred and forty five,
so it’ll be fine. Well, he’s got to be close, right.
I think he’s like ninety five and he’s he’s.
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In terrific shape. He was in that everything everywhere all
at once as well. Yes, Oh that’s what it was.
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That’s what it was. He was in town for that,
and we’re tied to get involved for that. Yes, he’s
ninety five. Yeah, we need low Pan here in the studio. Yeah, dude,
tell me what day that is, please, we’re working on it.
We’re working on it, Shane, that that Steff’s gonna be
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Tell you right now, Hey, Tom, let’s put in another request.
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Yeah, absolutely, all right. I’m jealous of you about Keith David.
But you’re gonna be jealous of me when I tell
you that a friend of mine had not seen Big
Trouble in Little China, and another friend of mine was
a manager of one of those big theaters that have
the food, and we went after hours when the theater
was closed, and she ran that movie and we had
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I am pretty jealous, damn. But Keith David did voice
IDs for us. Okay, you win? Is that what you
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Yes? You damn right, you can win. I’ll let you win.
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Oh you’ve got to hear it too, because yeah, because
he did a bunch of them.
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Yeah, yeah, he did a bunch of them.
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Wasn’t he also in They Live doing that massive fight
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Of course he was? Yeah, Okay, of course. You know
he was one of about all that. He was one of
the bartenders in Roadhouse. I missed that he was the
only black person in Roadhouse. How could you miss it?
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Well, being half black guy, I feel like it. I
really fumbled the ball on that one, didn’t I Yes,
go back and watch Roadhouse. He has a few lines
early in his career, but yeah, he was in Roadhouse
as one of the bartenders.
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Well, I’d rather watch the old one than the new one.
That doesn’t count. No, no, no time to go.
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